Subject	Punishing the wrong party doesn't solve the problem. Make
Posted by	MixManMash on June 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM
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In Reply To	Your words are revealing. I couldn't condemn your posted by zellamay on June 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
Message	the penalties so stiff that people won't do it. For example, no exceptions, you lose your license for life and spend at least one year in prison.
Follow Ups	CA/NY Z owners, brace yourselves - LJZTT 00:16:58 06/25/11 LOL (n/m) - ELIM 02:05:31 06/25/11 Re: CA/NY Z owners, brace yourselves - UrbanDiplomat 03:05:05 06/25/11 well it does somewhat make sence - FuerGrissa 05:26:16 06/25/11 Think about what you're saying... - arrowenterprises 06:06:06 06/25/11 He hit a BUNCH of trees. - dogpile 08:41:54 06/25/11 Umm, no...Take responsibility for yourself people. - tdogzjoint 14:34:49 06/25/11 I am so friggin disgusted with the letigious nature of... - arrowenterprises 05:55:02 06/25/11 Can't blame the lawyers for making a living off our - LJZTT 07:17:22 06/25/11 Yes you can blame the litigator lawyers.... - zdoc 08:26:12 06/25/11 Yes, you can. Lawyers choose thier profession, and - zellamay 08:29:43 06/25/11 so legislators collaborating with the litigation industry - LJZTT 10:59:05 06/25/11 Ditto! (n/m) - ubermiach 11:12:47 06/25/11 What you describe is a part of it, but it's so much more. - zellamay 16:06:29 06/25/11 Maybe his wife could sue the bar he was drinking at, or the - MixManMash 07:39:46 06/25/11 Forgot to add, it's about time people take responsibility - MixManMash 07:42:22 06/25/11 I'm glad I'm not alone. I thought the responses would be... - arrowenterprises 07:56:51 06/25/11 Sue the bar? It's interesting that we put drug dealers - zellamay 08:35:05 06/25/11 What about the guy who's drinking at the bar? Shouldn't he - MixManMash 08:39:40 06/25/11 Well, if we are interested in making the roads safer, - zellamay 08:59:17 06/25/11 If I choke and die from drinking a bottle of water, should - na300zx (OH) 09:15:32 06/25/11 Okay, you spend your energy trying to figure out who is - zellamay 16:08:56 06/25/11 General consumption is what has to be held responsible - ubermiach 09:37:36 06/25/11 THis post was intended for Mr. Zellamay (n/m) - ubermiach 09:39:13 06/25/11 If there are 2 people who could decide whether your - zellamay 16:14:08 06/25/11 A: drugs sold by drug dealers are illegal, both the dealer - LJZTT 11:37:53 06/25/11 Drugs are not car parts, the logic is waning here. - zellamay 16:56:11 06/25/11 NO we do not need "positions and strategies", the last thing - LJZTT 20:13:35 06/25/11 Your words are revealing. I couldn't condemn your - zellamay 21:13:52 06/25/11 Punishing the wrong party doesn't solve the problem. Make - MixManMash 10:11:49 06/26/11 Stiff penalties alone don't work. We've got the highest - zellamay 13:07:08 06/26/11 ok, let's apply your logic to the topic on hand - LJZTT 11:32:10 06/26/11 oh and btw you dodge the the crux of the issue entirely - LJZTT 11:44:30 06/26/11 "Zero difference between decisions regarding cars and - zellamay 12:50:01 06/26/11 You got me there. I did expand the topic. But I am - zellamay 12:45:24 06/26/11 oh boy.............. - ubermiach 08:47:18 06/25/11 She can sue the bar. - dogpile 08:48:19 06/25/11 yep and yep. - Halo TTZ 13:48:58 06/25/11 Isn't that the libertarian dream? - vorpalZ 08:22:20 06/25/11 Replace libertarian with liberal and yeah. - na300zx (OH) 08:45:50 06/25/11 Careful here. You are just as confused as vorpalZ. - zellamay 09:03:48 06/25/11 you know nothing about libertarianism apparently - LJZTT 11:02:12 06/25/11 2x blood alcohol; 3x speed limit; 4x stupid level = No Case (n/m) - Gordo 93TT Daytona 08:45:13 06/25/11 Agreed! (n/m) - ubermiach 08:48:34 06/25/11 I was thinking to myself when reading this ridiculous - LJZTT 11:06:14 06/25/11 Can you elaborate more on "CA" in your title? - SimaYi 08:53:01 06/25/11 "California" - ubermiach 10:59:25 06/25/11 I figured those would be the two states I would feel most - LJZTT 11:12:25 06/25/11 They're the two that usually come to mind first-Links inside - BoneZ 12:13:31 06/25/11 I agree that such policy is outrageous. - SimaYi 12:46:24 06/25/11 The assumption of personal responsibility is dead in the US (n/m) - Saint 10:25:25 06/25/11 You sir, have hit the nail on the head! - LitlElvis 12:24:46 06/25/11 I was just talking about this very thing the other day. - zQuikonE 12:30:05 06/25/11 yep, happened when that chick burned herself with McD coffee - Rogy 18:47:29 06/25/11 In her defense - McD's was regularly serving coffee at - Bernie (NoVA) 22:12:53 06/25/11 its a fine line I guess, but most people make their coffee - Rogy 23:35:05 06/25/11 The warning labels came after this suit and McD's improved - Bernie (NoVA) 09:43:19 06/26/11 This. (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:32:39 06/25/11 Journalists grabbing at straws here - Dallas DamonZ 12:47:40 06/25/11 This the correct answer. (n/m) - ztunerz 13:32:28 06/25/11 I completely agree. - SimaYi 14:19:25 06/25/11 Porsche would have to hire Casey Anthony's atty to lose this (n/m) - dpjax 16:31:39 06/25/11 Yep, 100% agree. (n/m) - Whatsagoodword 17:05:44 06/25/11 And this. (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:32:47 06/25/11 At this rate we'll all be signing legal release forms - JGZ32 15:17:12 06/25/11 Cool! Now we can sue gun makers when a relative - ChrisZTT(Sacto, CA) 19:13:59 06/25/11
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